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March 11, 2009

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Dreamer

So how much did you spend in your first year?

Dennis

Love the observations, as always!

I am just hitting year one of my retirement as well, and the thought of going back to the work thing seems repulsive now ... freedom is worth any adaptation of lifestyle, although we too are finding our requirements are MUCH less than anticipated...

Retired Syd

Dennis: Well I'm glad to hear it's working the same way for you--I think those lusting after retirement will find that encouraging, that it's not just me!

Dreamer: I kind of figure the actual number is meaningless to the world since everyone's got such different lifestyles. So I've never really thought it would be helpful to publish actual numbers.

Sylvia

I've also been doing a balance sheet on how much I have to spend now that there isn't a steady inflow of money and how grateful I am - even with budget restrictions - to not be working. Indeed, it's that feeling of privilege and gratitude that I've been thinking about so much these days. Thanks for all of your good advice Syd; it matters.

Dreamer

No not meaningless at all - I wanna see how you managed to do it in your early 40's so I can do the same

Judy @ Straw Cottage

I've been following since the beginning and think you have settled into retirement quite nicely. Thanks for you great writing throughout the year.

Dreamer, Syd's before retirement income and my current income are very different, therefore we have different lifestyles and the amount needed for retirement would be very different. But, the fundamental principles are the same-save more spend less. If you want actual figures-go see Jacob at Early Retirement Extreme.

Retired Syd

Judy: Thanks so much for reading all this time, I really appreciate that and your comments.

Dreamer: Judy points out the difficulty with absolute numbers here--if you ever read Early Retirement Extreme (which I love, by the way), he says you should be able to live on something like $6k/year, a number that doesn't even pay my property tax, so that's the problem with absolute numbers, you have to adjust for your lifestyle, where you live, etc.

But once you figure out what you spend right now, and examine that budget for what things will increase (like health insurance) and decrease (like clothes, dry cleaning, and commute costs), you have your own personal retirement budget. Multiply it by 33 and that's how much you need in today's (pre-inflation) dollars:

http://retiredsyd.typepad.com/retirement_a_fulltime_job/2008/08/how-much-money-do-you-need-to-retire.html

Dreamer

@judy straw cottage - why are you responding for Syd?

Syd - yeah I read Jacob's blog - which I agree is great - but he is very extreme, so for me it is of limited assistance.

Retired Syd

Dreamer: Yes, I guess you could call me the not-so-extreme-early retirement.

By the way, I'm fine with anyone that comments on anything, my posts or other's comments, so Judy's reply is ok by me!

Judy @ Straw Cottage

I was responding for myself, providing a sort of compare/contrast thing. Yep, that's my name under there-sorry for any confusion.

Fixed Annuity Guy

very good post

Gretta

So what was it that you cut back? I am thinking things like trips to Target or Fred Meyer that having incoming cash flow lends itself to. If your food budget went up but your recreational budget is stagnant, what else did you cut?

Retired Syd

Gretta: Actually, our expenses for food didn't go up, only meals out.
As I mentioned, our expenses for household and garden expenses (stuff and repairs and maintenance that we used to pay for that we now do ourselves, including cleaning, painting, gardening, etc.) went way down. Also, while we traveled a lot more than when I was working, vacation expenses were a LOT less than I expected. Bargain hunting, home-swapping, and driving more than flying all helped.

I find now that I HATE shopping for stuff (stuff for the house, clothes, etc.), and frankly I don't need anymore stuff. I guess I used to do that for recreation. I don't think it's fun anymore, so that saves a lot of money.

Andews Hayes

Balancing expenses can be difficult at times. Spending less is the only choice to cut down on expenses. But quality should never be sacrificed. At the end of the day, what matters most is that you guys are happy. =)

annuities rates

Thank you for sharing your story, I truly love it.

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