(Photo Details: My kitty. Why? Because she is so cute.)
Here’s a little story.
I graduated from U.C. Santa Barbara with a degree in Business Economics with an Accounting emphasis. I went to work after college for a “Big 8” accounting firm. Four years later, after earning my CPA license, I left public accounting to work as the Controller of a venture capital firm. Several years later, I was promoted to CFO. And after 18 years of working there, I retired. Some other facts:
1) When I retired, the guy who replaced me was offered a salary and bonus package that was almost 50% higher than mine. His bio read much like mine, same college, same major, same Big 8 experience, same venture capital experience. Except that he graduated a year after I did.
2) Every CFO before me and every CFO after me, was invited to attend in the weekly partner meetings. I was not.
3) Every CFO before and after me was a man.
But I did very well at this firm, amassing enough money to retire at the age of 44.
So that’s one story. Here’s another one.
When I started my career, I worked in the tax division of a Big 8 accounting firm. Every so often, a partner would take each of us to lunch. A “mentoring” lunch where they would share their wisdom on how we could be successful. One such time, I scored a big “win,” the head of the tax division was my lunch-time mentor. He spent most of the lunch telling me about how he had the great advantage of looking old when he was younger. Because he was prematurely gray or prematurely bald or something like that. I forget, it was so irrelevant to my situation. He attributed much of his success to this.
He told me I looked very young so the wisdom he passed along to me was, “Maybe don’t smile so much.”
These are just two of my stories. Maybe you have some stories too.
While apparently, I smile too much, Hillary Clinton smiles to little. She’s not relatable, she’s shrill, she doesn’t have the right experience. Oh yeah, and she doesn’t laugh right. When I watched the debates on Monday night, I actually yelled expletives not fit to print at the TV when Donald Trump would not stop talking over Hillary Clinton. I’ve been there too.
I am not trying to persuade you to vote one way or the other. You already know how you are voting. I just wanted to write a post about how this election is making me feel. I wasn’t even going to write about it but I read these articles today and I wanted to share them, in case you’ve been there too.
Hillary Clinton Will Not Be Manterrupted (New York Times)
Hillary Clinton’s Everywoman Moment (New York Times)
Women do ask for pay raises, they just don’t get them (CNN Money)
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Whenever I see an email from your blog in my inbox, I feel a burst of joy.
I left my job and set up a business with my husband as I couldn't deal with the mentality in the offices where I worked. However, it wasn't just the men; I had a few women bosses who weren't much better.
Posted by: mary ann | September 30, 2016 at 08:10 AM
So since we're finally tired of 8 years of everything being about race, do we now get to spend the next 4 with everything being about gender...?
Vomit.
Posted by: Without-a-box-to-check | September 30, 2016 at 08:43 AM
Syd, love your blog and appreciate this post. As a semi-retired lawyer who went to law school back in the 1970's when only 25% of the class were women, I have had experiences similar to yours. At the beginning of my career, I got comments that I looked too young to be a lawyer and that I wasn't "mean enough" to be a good lawyer. Later on in my career I actually had legal documents I prepared signed off by a male attorney junior to me with my name appearing nowhere in the document even though the work product was 100% mine. In my semi-retirement I am self-employed and find that most of my clients are women. It is wonderful! I can totally understand where Hillary is coming from. The battles for equality are far from over as a certain party is working hard to deny women even their reproductive rights. Civility is sadly lacking and it seems for some party is more important than country. I will be glad when this election is over and my hope is that once elected the President, House and Senate all work together for the good of the country. Wishful thinking, I know.
Posted by: June | September 30, 2016 at 02:20 PM
Hi Sydney… Just now catching up on your blog. It takes a lot of courage to post a viewpoint that you know will ruffle feathers. I am almost to the point where I can make my own thoughts known, without being tied to the responses I will get. Of course, I agree with your post, so I am not offended. I have been trying to understand why half of our population has rallied behind a man who appears so angry and acts like a bully. I think he is speaking to people's fears. People are afraid… a lot of the time from things that would make them appear racist, or sexist, or like big jerks. And even though Trump comes across as a loudmouth moron, he is giving people permission to speak what's on their mind, all be it in a not-very-nice way. At least their thoughts are out in the open... and we can see where people are coming from clear as day ... and maybe we can address those issues to make things better. Hopefully, somehow, some healing will come from all of this in the end. At this point, though, it seems like an uphill battle. This makes me very tired.
Posted by: Angela Nicolini | October 01, 2016 at 06:19 AM
Syd - Glad to see you posting again! But I was LMAO instead of yelling at the TV but I'll leave it at that.
Your cat is beautiful and please don't let anybody try to shut you or your opinion down.
Your opinions are always welcome and your posting/blogging style is a breath of fresh air.
Posted by: Your New Fan | October 02, 2016 at 02:23 PM
I have refused to watch electoral news as I already know who I'm voting for and I find it upsetting. I smiled and thought of you yesterday- I was on the phone with the home office yesterday when the customer service guy told me I would have to talk about that with my "supervisor" I explained (Shouted probably in frustration) that I AM the supervisor. His tone of voice changed immediately. In his defense, my industry is largely male. On the other hand I was asked to join a "women's inclusion group" and refused. I don't want to be evaluated as a woman- just on my merits like every other employee. Why is this so hard in 2016?
Posted by: ugeauxgirl | October 06, 2016 at 05:32 AM
Coming late to this party... reading the comments, I find it amusing that a number of (mostly male) readers lecture you on the content of your post, i.e., that politics is an unseemly theme. I suspect if your political persuasion matched theirs, they wouldn't be saying this. Excuse me, whose blog is it?
Posted by: Louisa | October 09, 2016 at 04:52 AM
I have a few thoughts on your post. I am also a CPA so I get the opportunity to work with many businesses in various industries. I have access to salary information, etc. I do not see the kind of gender discrimination that you describe but have no doubt that it exists in some places. What I do not believe is that it is rampant. What I know is that when someone is hired to replace an employee that left (male or female), they are often paid much higher than the employee that left. The reason that I suspect is that it is more difficult to attract a qualified candidate than it is to keep one. Unfortunately, many companies will pay someone only what it takes to keep them from leaving. But that has nothing to do with gender. Most of the time when a high level employee leaves, the company ends up paying much more to the replacement. The exception would be if they are replaced from within the company.
The other thing that I think happens is that we all take some criticisms in our jobs (male and female), both constructive and those that are in bad taste. Most of the comments directed at me, when negative, are simply washed off without a second thought. However, someone with an edge that believes that they are being discriminated against would file many of those comments away in their mind so that they can bring them back out on occasion to convince themselves that they were discriminated against. So while one person thinks "your opinion only", another thinks "discrimination!".
For what it's worth, I think both candidates are a national disgrace. Does that mean I just lost 100% of my audience?
Posted by: JA | October 13, 2016 at 07:18 AM
JA: I appreciate your taking the time to think about my post and your contribution to the discussion. I agree with most everything you say. And several commenters have observed that quite frequently a new hire is paid more than the older hire (I'm not sure 50% more is typical however.) As for whether it's "rampant," I'm not trying to make an argument that it is. But aggregate pay data suggests it could be one of the factors (I repeat one of the factors) that explains the gender pay gap. Under the circumstance of someone leaving his or her job, the replacement could be a man or a woman. And if it were a woman replacing a man, she might be offered more than the departing man, right? So in aggregate, with departing men and women, and men and women replacing departing men and women, you'd see in aggregate similar pay levels, right? But you don't see that in aggregate. I have never seen a study showing the relative pay levels in these situations. But I have seen a recent one indicating that women do negotiate as frequently as men do, indicating that failure to negotiate is not the culprit.
As a side note when I was hired, I was not paid more than the woman I was replacing. She had a couple years more experience than I had so that does not seem surprising to me.
I'd also like to add, because a few commenters have mentioned this. I never said I was "discriminated against". In fact I mentioned that I did quite well. I just described the circumstances. Some people view them as unfair, some do not. Most likely how you view it has to do with your own life experiences, right?
Posted by: Retired Syd | October 13, 2016 at 09:07 AM
Retired Syd: you make a strong case, but I believe there are many factors that are at play in the gender pay gap, none of which I want to debate. At any rate, I appreciate the thoughtful response and look forward to your posts. Just wish there weren't such long gaps between posts sometimes :)
Posted by: JA | October 13, 2016 at 11:45 AM
Eh hem.
So if a man costs 20% more to have do the exact same job as a woman, why aren't all the men being fired?
Posted by: Lulu | October 14, 2016 at 11:35 AM
Lulu: Well obviously because men are 20% better than women.
Posted by: Retired Syd | October 14, 2016 at 03:17 PM
Syd - I guess I have to reluctantly agree with you.
I know how aggressive they are about reducing costs in my company. If there was a way to reduce employee expenses by 20% without reducing productivity, they wouldn't hesitate.
Keep the articles coming, Lu
Posted by: Lulu | October 15, 2016 at 11:51 AM
Hi Syd, as a frequent reader over many years, I look forward to your posts - more please, and longer. Your earlier posts were a great help in my decision to take my own early retirement at 52. Keep it up.
I am constantly amazed at how commenters feel they can just get right in there and criticise the blogger on their own site and tell them what to do. In the U.K. (Where I am from) we see the same from commenters about the Brexit vote, on many US sites I see the same and worse relating to the election. Why do people get so exercised? On a blog with at best a few hundred viewers? Pathetic. Politics is clearly much more important in the US, though for the Presidential election I can't understand why! Seems to me the President has limited power these days, as the two main party support is so equal, as it is in the U.K. But we have a different system - our Prime Minister is not elected per se, he or she is simply the leader of the party who gets more votes, rather than having an independent election for the main man/woman.
To come on here and call you out for daring to mention politics is a disgrace.
As is clearly shown above, Syd is far too polite and level headed to call out the idiocy and ignorance of this, so I'll take the opportunity - Glenn, Steel and No-Brain-to-notice, chill out guys. This is Syd's playground, leave her to it. I am sure you will not be missed should you choose to follow a blog more suited to your mentalities.
Posted by: Tony in the UK | October 26, 2016 at 11:10 AM
As a business owner and male, I have been careful to make sure I don't get into the easy and sometimes expedient habit of hiring men because I think it's easy. I used to get frustrated when my female employees have to go on Maternity leave and I have to hire someone, temporarily to do their work and give them their job back when they get back. Then we started having kids and my wife's experience opened my eyes. I think most men will do the right thing if only they understood the underlying factors. One may say, "well, most of those men doing this are married and have kids". Well, they may do, but directly experiencing something and being around it is different. And after about 10 years of business, I actually now hire more women than men, especially in key positions. Why? Because they work harder and are more loyal, if you are flexible and don't pigeon hole them. My 2 cents.
Posted by: Philip Carter | November 11, 2016 at 08:50 AM
Personally, I appreciated your stories and your political comments. This is my first visit to your blog so I have very little context, but some of the reactions to this post are interesting in what they reveal. Your responses are certainly a lot more gracious and level-headed than I could muster! Kudos for that.
I look forward to reading more here...
Posted by: Glenn Dixon | February 24, 2017 at 01:19 PM